C.O.N.F.E.D. Fleet Uniforms

[UnWantedSoldier]

Originally Posted by middyseafort

Great work. Just a suggestion on military parlance in your charts. In the officer rank chart, you identify the medical officer's rank as being a "Line Officer." Medical staff in the military are "Staff Officers" not "Line Officers."

A "Line Officer" is in the direct chain of command, or in line to command the ship/division/platoon should anything happen to those above him/her. A "Staff Officer" provides support the the line officers-- i.e. medical, JAG, chaplins, etc.

More 411 at Line officer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Admittedly my use of the word Line officer for all medical personnel isn't correct in the traditional military sense however it is correct in Star Trek, I point to the Example of Commander Beverly Crusher and Commander Deanna Troi both medical officers who are by the definition of the word (A line officer is a military officer who is trained to command a warship, ground combat unit, or combat aviation unit) are Line Officers (TNG: "Thine Own Self"). But bottom line is that while Staff Officers exist in Starfleet they do not in the C.O.N.F.E.D. Ill give you a basic break down in the system that determines what type of commission a Person gets when they join the C.O.N.F.E.D.

Flag Officer
There are only 11 positions in the C.O.N.F.E.D. for what would be considered Flag level officers. The Highest flag ratings, Levels 10, and 9, are awarded to the elected members of the C.O.N.F.E.D. council, this accounts for 9 of the 11 positions. Level 8 is issued to the Fleet Liaison Officer, Appointed by the C.O.N.F.E.D. council to act as an intermediary between the Council and the Fleet. Level 7 is issued to the Commander of Space Station Sedition, who is appointed by the C.O.N.F.E.D.

Line Officer
There are three ways that a person can receive a Line Commission in the C.O.N.F.E.D. fleet.

1. The C.O.N.F.E.D. honors commissions issued by Starfleet Command, any person who joins the C.O.N.F.E.D. who had previously held a commission as a Starfleet Officer will be awarded a C.O.N.F.E.D. Commission as a line officer of the equivalent rank.

2. A C.O.N.F.E.D. Line Officer Commission will be awarded to any person who has received a degree from a minimum 4 year higher learning education facility. The Commission will be awarded after the completion of a C.O.N.F.E.D. Officers Training course.

3. A C.O.N.F.E.D. Battlefield commission, to a Line officer, can be awarded by the Senior Commanding Line Officer (if none available issuing authority falls to the FLO) in certain circumstances. Most Likely example of this would be if a position such as executive officer (which must be held by a line officer) is needed to be filled and the only persons available are NCOs or more likely Warrant Officers a BFC can be issued

Warrant Officers
Warrant Officer Commissions are issued to any person who’s training, experience and position, warrant an officers commission though their qualifications do not meet that of a Line officer. As with Line Officers the C.O.N.F.E.D. recognizes warrant officer commissions issued by Starfleet command.

Non-Commissioned Officers
Non commissioned officers are all those who’s training, experience, position and qualifications do not meet those of either a Line Officer or Warrant Officer. Again the C.O.N.F.E.D. recognizes any NCO rank issued by Starfleet.

LOL Hopefully that explains what determines a person Commission status in the C.O.N.F.E.D.

[Capt Christopher Donovan]

I noticed that on all your unis the color of the pant stripe matches the armband on the left sleve, the epulets, and the turtleneck collar EXCEPT for the "Command", which has a red stripe, but everything else is WHITE. Is that intentional?

[UnWantedSoldier]

Yes this is intentional, (aside from the stripe the command epaulets and command NCO insignia both have red borders while the rest of divisions are bordered in their own color.) This is a Hold over From the Starfleet Uniforms from this era, (command division officer’s trousers have a red stripe down them).

[UnWantedSoldier]

Well time to add another set to the list of C.O.N.F.E.D. Fleet Uniforms. These are work (a.k.a. “Grease Monkey”) uniforms that can be worn by all personnel (Officer/Enlisted, Male/Female) while performing maintenance duties. The uniforms purposely do not display any rank or division colors, (in the traditional sense of command, science, security, etc...) instead they merely display the persons Name, ship, and to which area of the ship they are assigned to. Although these uniforms are intended for use while performing maintenance duties they can in certain areas of the ship be worn in place of the standard duty uniform. (I.E. Engineering, Shuttle Bay, and Torpedo room)

There are 4 different colored versions depending on where a person is assigned onboard ship.

Grey: Maintenance
Grey is used to signify general maintenance, everything from unplugging a backed up head to repairing a ruptured EPS conduit falls under this banner along with major components such as sensor arrays and computer cores.

Red: Engine Room
Red is used to signify Engine Room personnel, it can be worn by any one assigned to a ships engine room or any other location onboard ship that deals with power generation or propulsion such as Impulse engine rooms, Energizers, and RCS units.

Green: Flight Deck
Green is used to signify Flight deck personnel it is worn by any personnel who directly deal with the maintenance of embarked craft or the area in which they reside. This covers all shuttle and cargo bays onboard ship.

Brown: Ordinance
Brown signifies Ordinance and is worn by personnel who work in or perform maintenance on a ships Torpedo Bays and phaser emitters.

[Mentat]

Fantastic! Very nicely done.

[Mauiman]

Sorry to Necro but what in the sam whackity heck does the acronim C.O.N.F.E.D. Stand for?

I wen't up and down every page of this thread looking for the defination.

[edit]

Well I had gone to the site that I was too darned blind to see the hyperlink to and I had found out this
Citizens Orginizations for New Federation of Ethics Deplomacy (C.O.N.F.E.D.)

[UnWantedSoldier]

Originally Posted by Mauiman

Sorry to Necro but what in the sam whackity heck does the acronim C.O.N.F.E.D. Stand for?

I wen't up and down every page of this thread looking for the defination.

[edit]

Well I had gone to the site that I was too darned blind to see the hyperlink to and I had found out this
Citizens Orginizations for New Federation of Ethics Deplomacy (C.O.N.F.E.D.)

Hehe, I didn't realize i didn't explain the acronym stood for in this thread, lol I've got so many different ones floating about its hard to keep them all strait. If your interested my 2d wip thread covers probably 90% of everything I've done for sedition with the exception of a few finished images which are scattered about in the 2d gallery, i know there is an update to this one which shows the 140 different uniform combinations i came up with for the C.O.N.F.E.D. fleet uniforms.

[peragrin]

excellent colouring designs. My only problem is with the ranks.

Once you reach captain level your in charge of the whole ship not just an engineering department. Commanders I can still see being separated out at least on the larger vessels. Though that is a simple fix to work from.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by peragrin

excellent colouring designs. My only problem is with the ranks.

Once you reach captain level your in charge of the whole ship not just an engineering department. Commanders I can still see being separated out at least on the larger vessels. Though that is a simple fix to work from.

Not so. Scotty and Spock were both holding the rank of Captain during the later TOS Movies, with Scotty receiving his promotion to Captain "of Engineering" in The Search For Spock.

Plus, if I'm not much mistaken, there is real life precedent for it.

[UnWantedSoldier]

Originally Posted by peragrin

excellent colouring designs. My only problem is with the ranks.

Once you reach captain level your in charge of the whole ship not just an engineering department. Commanders I can still see being separated out at least on the larger vessels. Though that is a simple fix to work from.

Im not sure i quite understand your problem with the rank. Is it steamed around the fact that the rank being displayed for Commander is for the command division? because that is just what i chose to display, it doesn't mean that all commanders are in command division colors. On Thor which is what the rank is displayed for the highest ranking officer on board is a Full Commander, There is no one of captains rank in command of that ship. I never liked the fact that in star trek (untill DS9) any one in charge of a ship regardless of ship size or crew complement was automatically a Captain both in name and rank. Most of the C.O.N.F.E.D. Fleet is made up of smaller vessels with crew complements under 300, There is only a hand full of ships commanded by full bar captains.

I hope that answers your concerns. if not could you explain them differently.